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June 9, 2013 at 11:32 am #4482
GraphDesProject
MemberAt least I haven’t encountered the editing issues here….There WERE bullet points above and there were whenI edited it….Give up!
June 9, 2013 at 1:19 pm #4489David Jennings
ParticipantSorry about that, Sancha, that editing bug is a known annoyance with WordPress – I’ve edited the formatting a little to reintroduce the bullet points.
June 9, 2013 at 3:04 pm #4525ElizabethECharl
ParticipantSancha,
Thanks for starting this thread. Can I pick up on the failure section and ask with regard to “mature students and blogging” whether you have considered:
Either providing some basic guidelines on how to blog or it is more likely that the concern is about putting their thoughts out there;
That this is delivered in a secure (password protected) environment or they set up their blog under an assumed/project name and how to do this (a little video/screencast on how to set this up on WordPress or Blogger – might not go amiss?)
You would then get what you needed their reflections but also have responded to the learners’ concern about vulnerability
The hosting by two websites is an additional complication that it would be wise to reduce but you are aware of this.
With regard to the technological support I am not sure that I can help but it might be interesting to see if some of our ocTEL participant might not be able to advise.
June 9, 2013 at 8:42 pm #4528GraphDesProject
MemberHi Elizabeth, Thanks for the comments. On my own tutoring website there is plenty of information about how the projects run and FAQ etc etc. There is less information on the brokering site where the iussues have happened though it does clearly say “blogging” as a medium. However, the learners do get a friendly interactive PDF of very full guidelines about how and why to use a blog and how to set it up, privacy options etc. I have to stress that it is only my hunch about blogging putting them off; it might be that they have signed up for projects as gifts to others who don’t use them. I survey my learners but these few people don’t respond when contacted so it remains partly a mystery. But I’m a big believer in the expectations you set up etc etc so I do provide plenty of guidance with additional email offers of help. Having done ocTEL I’m thinking of adding even more the initial guidance (videos) and introductions – it’s been a real help in that sense.
Sancha
June 9, 2013 at 8:42 pm #4529GraphDesProject
MemberThank you!
June 9, 2013 at 8:46 pm #4530GraphDesProject
MemberPS: On a note about the successes, I was really interested to read that two of the points for success were embedded assessment and the overtness (is there such a word?) of the Community of Practice. I’m about to conduct a training session (probably online) for my collegues and I was glad to know these points now so that I can stress the importance of these things. It’s true that you do see lot of attempts at TEL dive bomb for silly reasons that aren’t always clear.
Sancha
June 10, 2013 at 7:47 pm #4561AliSheph
MemberWhat an interesting thread! I usually start small to minimise risk, but that does mean only incremental progress if I am lucky! However, I’m involved at the start of a much bigger project and I will be sharing the Cochrane paper to prompt a discussion about how to try and avoid some of the banana skins, so it’s timely.
June 11, 2013 at 2:32 pm #4580SueFolley
MemberMaybe the issue with adult learners and blogging is not so much the technical side of things but it is quite scary to blog. I agree to start small and give the learners very low-risk blogging activities to start with. It can be really frightening to blog about something more academic if you are not confident about yourself. Plan the first few posts, maybe just to write a few lines on their motivations for taking the course, or a bit about their other interests. This will get them into the process of blogging without it being too scary. I always find it hard to write a blog when told I can write about anything, I prefer to be given a remit. The other thing is to try and build some social presence amongst the participants before you ask them to blog. For example try hosting a fun informal webinar when they get to know each other. They need to build a bit of trust amongst each other before they start to blog. This tends to happen more automatically with face-to-face classes but needs a bit of tutor-led help online.
June 11, 2013 at 6:58 pm #4587Julie Voce
MemberThanks to Sancha for kicking off the discussion for the first activity, and thanks to Elizabeth and Sue for their useful comments and suggestions. It’s interesting that the drop-off in people blogging only occurs via the third party website. Perhaps if they’re just after a course as a pasttime activity, they don’t feel they want to actually do the project part. It’s a shame that they don’t respond to your survey so you might never know
Looking forward to hearing other people’s thoughts on the key successes and failures of their projects/courses.
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