Joined on 04 June 2013 at 12:31 Janet Gordon (London Met): Not yet simonbates: Not a problem, just slack with the reading simonbates: Sorry Moderator (David Jennings): I meant to say Fernando will talk until about 1:15 then we'll have questions Moderator (David Jennings): Feel free to post questions and thoughts in the chat at any time Sue Barnes: Not drinking yet but it sounds a nice idea! Moderator (David Jennings): Has anyone had experience of podcasts either for your own learning or as a producer? Rachel Temple: More experience of watching videos Moderator (David Jennings): Rachel, is that videos of lectures or other educational material (e.g. simulations, scenarios etc)? Rachel Temple: Both really. I just like to see pictures...and who is talking. Sue Barnes: I did an open online course on making podcasts provided by someone from Napier uni Janet Gordon (London Met): Before I lost my iPod Touch I used to listen to technology podcasts on my journey to work and a few language podcasts (audio only) Rachel Temple: @David for example, I think I'd find it easier to see Fernando talking Sue Barnes: http://www.thepodcasthost.com/podwhating/ Sue Barnes: @Rachel - I agree Rachel Temple: @ Sue but this is possible in Collaborate, isn't it? Moderator (David Jennings): Interesting, Rachel, thanks - do others share that view? (the reason we don't show video is partly that it's small and reasonably low quality on elluminate, and also the audio sometimes suffers as a result) Philip Martin 2: Re initial Q: some of my non-native english speaking colleagues in a global MBA program create their own podcosts of professor lectures so they can review the material at their own pace. Seems to help them. As a result of feedback the school will record all classes next year (not as MOOC but for existing students). Sue Folley: I think it helps to see the speaker on video if possible Tom Dore: It tends to hold the attention more, when I can see the speaker. simonbates: Collaborate can be used to create podcasts. We use the desktop recorder function on Adboe Presenter 8 and / or Panopto. Moderator (David Jennings): Thanks, Philip (& nice to 'see' you) Liz Kirrane: I think it is down to personal preference, I am happy to simply listen but I know that a lot of the "message" can be lost when we don't see facial expression and body language! Rachel Temple: Agree that shorter is better - chunking really helps to keep you focussed. Janet Gordon (London Met): Agree too, @Rachel Moderator (David Jennings): I haven't kept up with all the Human-Computer Interaction research, but the early findings were that video added to perceived attractiveness of material, but had no impact on learning (or sometimes a hint of -ve impact) simonbates: The hour long lecture is built around the way that bricks and mortar universities manage rooms. No need for that format in distance learning - short recordings that can be used on a variety of devices has to be the way to offer flexible learning. Rachel Temple: @David More information on research would be great. Sue Barnes: @David and Rachel - I agree Moderator (David Jennings): Rachel, I'll have to dig it out - won't be able to find it in next 30 mins, but will try and post on @ALTocTEL twitter feed later James Kerr 1: A course group I participated in studied the effectiveness of very short videos (less than 5 minutes) for quick tutorials. Found users wanted very short, succint videos on single tutorial topics only. Rachel Temple: @ David Gosh in the next few days would be more than quick enough! Thank you! Moderator (David Jennings): I'm cheating because I've read Fernando's paper James Kerr 1: But can listen on mobile devices without being "on the go"... Liza Zambgolou (RSCni): Apologies Fernando if you have already said, but how recent are these stats ? Philip Martin 2: Fernando: Interesting data. Did you capture income levels of respondents? Philip Martin 2: Thanks. Wonder if they use for personal reasons (not for job skills) and are willing to pay because they're higher income. Moderator (David Jennings): Fernando has published some of this research at http://oro.open.ac.uk/37382/ so feel free to have a look if you'd like more details Lynn Trinko: thanks! Liza Zambgolou (RSCni): Thanks! carole: Thanks a lot Fernando Janet Gordon (London Met): Gracias cath: thank you James Kerr 1: Thank you! Rachel Temple: Thank you! Sue Folley: Thanks Lynn Trinko: Thanks! Very interesting! Rosemary: Thank you! Liz Kirrane: Fascinating stuff Fernando, thank you! Liza Zambgolou (RSCni): Gracias Fernando James Kerr 1: I'll be hitting up your research paper next Moderator (David Jennings): Did someone have their hand up wishing to speak on the microphone? Moderator (David Jennings): If so, please raise hand again! Carolyn Jones: Thank you - very informative Liza Zambgolou (RSCni): Apologies that I have to leave 5 mins before the end - thanks again very interesting! Moderator (David Jennings): Rachel, do you want to come back on the video question? Rachel Temple: Um, not done audio set up this time...Sorry! Moderator (David Jennings): I have a few questions noted down, but if anyone wants to chip in, now would be the time... Moderator (David Jennings): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp7DKzTxFSw Moderator (David Jennings): http://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/beyond-distance-research-alliance/projects/impala1 Philip Martin 2: If there's time, back on the topic of income/educational needs/interests of OU iTunes U users -- seems the people who could benefit most (who need further education/job skills for enhancing employment prospects) aren't accessing the materials. It's people who already have jobs and are just learning for personal interest. If that's right, is there something to be done about that from OU's perspective? Rachel Temple: Thank you! Liz Kirrane: Excellent session, thank you Fernando and David Sue Folley: thanks all Janet Gordon (London Met): Muchas gracias Philip Martin 2: Thanks this was great Sue Barnes: Thank you: I am off to find out more about ItunesU